We're going to have to take carbon out of the atmosphere. There will be people who throw things at me for saying that, but I'm happy to stick with that assertion. It's going to need to be, eventually I think, of non-trivial importance in tackling the climate change question. On the bike this morning I managed to grab a little of the fascinating conversations Shayle Khan was having on Canary Media's [Catalyst podcast](https://www.canarymedia.com/podcasts/catalyst-with-shayle-kann/kick-starting-a-1-trillion-market-for-carbon-removal) with Nan Ransohoff, Stripe's head of climate. There's a ton of really impressive insights from the podcast, but the one that pulled at me this morning was Shayle's reference to the "transparency" that Stripe is employing to catalyze change in the carbon removal market. Stripe publishes a bunch of information, spanning applications and decision making explanations, for the benefit of growing the market / sector. This is clearly not nearly the most exciting insight from the podcast, but of super relevance right now to our work at EWB-SA - specifically our JET Lab efforts. In that Lab, we've tried to embrace "openness" on the basis that putting information out into the world for everyone to benefit from is a core mechanism to achieve our mission (empowering communities). It's much trickier than it looks to do this however, particularly while respecting the hard-work of communities (how to prevent the knowledge of a community from being unfairly abused by an "open" license for example). I've personally long agreed with the idea that "openness" drives change, that [[openness is a catalyst]], particularly in spaces where moving the needle is especially difficult. The Stripe project in carbon removal is a strong data-point in favour. It tracks nicely with our intention of building a fully open IPP at EWB-SA.